Barbara Brown Taylor: ”I feel held and destroyed by the earth”

Tony talks with best-selling author Barbara Brown Taylor about the Holy Spirit as a bird, why living on a farm means you can't be romantic about death, the redemptive sound of the loon call, experiencing the sacred on the land, how place is a spiritual director, being hopelessly pagan, and more. Find Barbara's books at https://amzn.to/3ex4bNS.